Comprehensive List of Tires / Pressures - Hot & Cold

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  1. Whitney Arnold

    Whitney Arnold Run it wide. The grass is a safe place.

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    Can we work together and make a "Comprehensive List of Tires / Pressures - Hot & Cold". I will Laminate It and keep it with my tools, in my trailer, wallet, etc.... How many times a weekend does someone at the track ask about pressure for a certain type of tire? If we can come up with a really good list I will have wallet cards made and give them out at the race tracks. LOL We need all brands of tires that you might see at the race track. 185's, 190's, 200's, etc... It seems that the "tire guy" at the tracks usually does not know pressures but on a few brands. Also, it seems that if you have Verizon and your phone sucks (like mine) then you never have internet at the track. :(
    B.T.W. What is the WiFi password for BMP???
     
  2. Dave608

    Dave608 Let's Ride!
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    Best you can hope for is good starting or "safe" pressures. Depending on rider and their riding style not to mention bike type these can vary quite a bit. Example current generation Pirelli Supercorsa slicks. Generic pressures 32F/25R. Rear pressure can be a pound or so difference depending on the compound. Cooler morning you might run 27R just an example. Front varies depending on bike and rider feel. Some riders will go as high as 36 in the front.

    This happens with every tire brand. Back when I ran Dunlops the official rear pressure recommendation was 23 but I ran anywhere from 19-24 depending on track, outside temp, etc.

    Your idea is good just pointing out it's a much bigger task and there is no one size fits all pressure.
     
  3. indy

    indy What's an apex?

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    I think a good baseline wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe with max high and low also.
    Make one column cold, other warm or on warmers.
    Helps when one forgets to check pressures before putting the warmers on.
    Seems there is always one guy asking what warm pressures are because they forgot to check when cold.

    This could get pretty complex, Your the man for the job. ;)
     
  4. srastoder

    srastoder n00b

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    image.png Here is what Dunlop says:
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  5. Whitney Arnold

    Whitney Arnold Run it wide. The grass is a safe place.

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    ^^^^^^ Michelin and Pirelli have the same charts on the interweb. I just wanted someone to compile it all into a wallet card picture. I was going to get them printed out and hand them out for free at all the tracks in the SE.... LOL (I am a lazy ARSE)
     
  6. JTRC51

    JTRC51 The fast Juan

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    As a "guide" sure! But there are many other variables to consider and while at track it's always a good idea to consult the tire vendor as they may know based on track/tire/compound/temp

    I ran my Dunlop slicks/UK @ 18-20 mostly (rear)

    Michelin slicks were similar 19-21 (rear)

    On Pirelli now so we will see what those like :) have DOTs now but may go to slicks.
     
  7. Ohio_1199DUC

    Ohio_1199DUC Knows an Apex when he sees one
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    The problem with compiling things is the variables and understanding of the variables.

    What's hot, what's cold?
    What level of rider?


    For example... While at barber in October it was about 50 in the morning. That was cold for them but in the north We can be on track in the 30's.

    If it's gonna be a compilation of the factory recommended pressure and warmer recommendations then I'm all for it. Once opinion gets added then it's pointless.


    Just my 2 pennies worth.
     
  8. Whitney Arnold

    Whitney Arnold Run it wide. The grass is a safe place.

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    Yes, "If it's gonna be a compilation of the factory recommended pressure and warmer recommendations then I'm all for it." that is exactly what I am looking for. Just for all tire types and brands that you might see at the track. Information all in one place!
     
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  9. Mran556

    Mran556 Rides with no training wheels

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    What do you guys recommend for a novice running q3? I heard 30 cold front and rear at the novice class room. So if its 34 right after my session i should leave it? Or adjust it to 30/30 hot? I cant feel a difference between a few psi. What about 28f 21 rear cold? I see alot of people saying 20r but thats for race tires. Can i do that on a q3. Im confused
     
  10. Whitney Arnold

    Whitney Arnold Run it wide. The grass is a safe place.

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    I will check for you and try to find you a good answer!
     
  11. ASM

    ASM Rides with no training wheels

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    21 seems to be a bit low for Q3s to me. The last two weekends in November (Barber/Tally) I switched back to my Q3's and ran them at around 30f/28r. Having said that...I have been running the rear as low as 24/25 during the summer.

    Dunlop actually recommends like 32f/32r or something similar if I remember correctly.
     
  12. skapan

    skapan Step 'n' Fetch for Vixen

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    My dunlop distributor has consistently said 32 front and 30 rear cold for the Q3's. Depending on the moisture in your tires they can go 3 to 5 psi higher hot. Do NOT adjust them, it is supposed to be like that. If you reduce the hot pressure, they will get even hotter next session. Of course, feel free to experiment!
     

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