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Good point, I should have said tires that are on the verge of being done so you can feel the difference happening due to that and get used to it rather than forcing a good tire into a slide intentionally. I still say that this should not be practiced at a track day at all for the reason stated here plus safety! Track days are not race practice! If you want to find the edge of the tire and your personal limits within that you should be at a race school, not track days.
I think riding in the r**n is one of the best ways to practice this. It brings you closer to the edge of tracking without pushing the bike as hard and at slower speeds. Although I think a controlled slide is kinda fun, I don't seek the limit of traction. For me, this is usually when my tire is almost done or I decide to get a little ham fisted on the gas coming off an apex...It can be a fine line between feeling like Stoner and flying through the air onto your face.
Yea, I rather not crash at a track day but I'm just trying to get a understanding of how to improve my skills and abilities without messing up the bike or getting hurt in the process. The top guys are comfortable with the bike moving around alot and often can make corrections and prevent crashing. I'm just trying to understand how they get that skill set without alot of wrecking.
Give STT a bunch of money and we convert that into SEAT TIME... Then the seat time gives you that skill set.
Short answer is, you don't. I have never gone out and purposely said I'm going to crash, but sometimes pushing the boundaries has its consequences. I've been caught out, trying just a little more, just a little more brake, just a little more gas, then you find out what the limit is. The limit is also ever changing. Best advice, pick a tire and stay with it. Pick a suspension guy and stay with him. I see too many people hop around because this was on sale or didn't have the money for new tires so I bought brand X take offs when I usually run brand Y.
Agreed. You don't go out and try to ride like them. You learn and grow slowly. Though I have to mention. Steve doesn't go out to crash. But he has said "I will put it on the podium or I will toss that B**** down the track." I must admit. He is true to his word. But I don't recall a podium that day.