I have used alot of different brake pads but got to try the SBS Carbon pads at Barber thanks to Chris and they are awesome. I have a ZX10R and have battled with brake fade and tried different pads, fluids, and even lines without much change. Just sand or scuff your old pad crud off the rotors and put the new pads on. They are already heat cycled at the factory so just a few short stops and your ready to go. Thanks again Chris for the info and help.
I wondered what you guys were doing to those rotors. I've had similar success with Vesrah pads. How much are the SBS carbon pads?
I just ran a set of SBS dual carbons on my 996 (2 pin gold Brembos (PFM mod. iron rotors) out at Grattan and loved em over the Galfer green's or EBC HH that I had. Takes a few turns to heat up and they're good to go.
what is this 'takes a few turns to heat up' that you speak of?.... i am not familiar with this phenom. sincerely a vesrah rjl lover
I would listen to Jig, he is the braking "god". As deep as he brakes into corners RJL's must be awesome.....
I'm just learning to brake deep. I'll have to check this stuff out early next year.(Different brake pads and lines.) For now I'll just work with what I've got. :wink:
Vesrah and SBS DC pads are extremely different. Vesrah pads are sintered metal and the SBS pads are a dual carbon compound. The Vesrah SRJL pads are their high end race pad the RJL are their track day/street pad. They don't work bad. They don't require a lot of heat to stop but they do fade at higher speeds and wear out much more quickly than the SRJL. Actually on brake dyno sheets most OEM pads (actually I think all of them) outperform RJL pads. The difference between sintered metal pads and the SBS dual carbon pads is the transferrence of heat. The dual carbon pads work better the hotter they get. They cannot be used as a street pad, and a slower rider may not get the pad hot enough to feel like they are getting the stopping power that they are used to on a sintered metal pad. Sintered metal pads transfer a lot of heat to the backing plate and subsiquently to the fluid. So of course they heat up quicker and are more suitable to street riders or slower track riders. SBS DC pads are pre heat treated so the backing plates DO NOT warp like most pads will with extreme heat. Since the carbon pads don't transfer heat nearly as much as the sintered metal pads then brake fluid does not boil as easily and brake fade can be pretty much eliminated with those pads and a good DOT 5.1 brake fluid. Also the DC pads last VERY long and don't fade off as they wear. Geoff May recently wore a set down to the metal and didn't realize they were almost wore out. Also, once you break in your first set of DC pads there is never another break in period as long as you continue to run DC pads. Just install subsiquent sets and run. Ultimately if you have a track only bike, you need to try a set of these pads. They can truly change the way you ride your bike on the track. Ten Kate Honda, Alstaire Suzuki, Erion Honda, M4 Emgo Suzuki, Lithium Motorsports, Garret Carter Racing, Corey West, ARNCHU Racing, and your STT instructors are using them. There is absolutely no difference in the pads the pro's are using and the ones you get from Sportbike Track Gear or Lithium Motorsports. I have given pads to Erion Honda and M4 Emgo Suzuki myself out of our own inventory at the track when they ran low. Give us a call if you have any questions as to how these pads can help you drop lap times and save some money! 712-546-7747
I've got an 05 zx-6R and I think this bike actually comes with a 10-r rotor stock. It stops VERY WELL!!! The only problem that I've noticed recently is that it's screwing me a little in the long run on the track. It might actually be the brakes it's not me.(It's actually me trust me. I know this now which is good.) I love to come into a turn hot, but I was losing my momentum because I didn't find the fine line between braking hard and carrying that momentum and corner speed in the turn. When I figure out this fine line I would like to try these brake pads out, but I'm not ready to try these out yet. I know how to throw a bike into a corner, but I need to grow the confidence up more if you know what I mean. :wink: I'm a little bit of a slow learner on the track, but the things that I learn I seriously try to perfect. When the baby steps add up it will be good. I have some bugs to work out, but I've always found a way to get my goals and what I want. I'm going through a bit of frustration right now, but it will click.
I switched to SBS pads at Mid-Ohio.... At GingerMan and Autobahn I was able to do things under (extreme) braking that I have nevr been ableto do on that bike.... These pads offer ample intitial bite but not "put ya on yer head" stuff.... The harder you use them the better they perform. A 05 Mille is not what most would consider a svelt mount.. LOL!!! I was able to modulate my S1200 Michelin front slick right up to the point of impending lock up (a cool howling sound results...) and keep it there... Best pads I ave ever used period and that includes Vesrah, EBC, Carbone Loraine and stock brembo....