What does the term "sponsored by" mean? For example the Putnam day at the end of August says it's sponsored by Ducati Indianapolis but it costs more then a trackday that is not sponsored by someone. I always thought sponsored by as used in this type scenario was to help lower the cost of the event. So.....if this td cost more than a regular td then what is the benefit or purpose of it? Just curious Or is it not actually sponsored by but put-on jointly by STT & Ducati Indianapolis? And if so why the higher cost? And the benefits??
It just means it costs more and will be over sold. The benefit is that it makes your wallet lighter. I did a day with them at Putnam earlier this year, never again. I think there were between 30-35 bikes in the Int group, and Putnam is not a track that can accommodate that. Obviously make your own decision about it, and maybe it's not always like that, but i'm not gonna risk it again.
Seriously.... and I mean no disrespect, but if you can't handle 30 bikes at Putnam (Putnam = 2 miles = 10,560 feet divivded by 30 bikes = a track density of ONE BIKE EVEY 352 FEET) then you need to drop back down to our Novice group (or SOMEONES) and learn how to pass people because you obviously lack the skillset required to do it. Hate to be so blunt but you we unambigious so I figured you'ld appriciate the same.
I happen to know of an org, which will remained unidentified because I don't bash other companies, that runs more than 35 in their "I" and "A" groups. We are usually lower than the norm when it comes to track density. +1 on Monte's response too. He's right.
We are helping Ducati Indy by allowing our shopping cart to be used to collect the funds for the day and helping with supplying the Coaching Staff. Ducati Indy is hosting the day along with Ducati North America. Last year it was a nice day with some former word champions there and the Motorcyclist Magazine folks as well. The groups were IIRC 20 riders of so per group and we had a very, very fun day. I don't know what day the guy below the OP went to but it sure as hell wasn't the one we were at the day after Moto GP last season. Thanks for asking, it was a good question.
Last year's post-MotoGP Ducati Day at Putnam was a bunch of fun -- especially since the hurricane had blown out of town by Sunday night! I got to pass 1098R-mounted Larry Pegram (okay, it was his first lap *ever* at Putnam, and yes, he passed me back a lap or two later), got to watch a Motorcyclist photo shoot (you have no idea how *slow* these guys are going in those cool "let's ride 6 inches away from each other" cover shots). Even got to watch a Desmosidici get crashed. As Monte said, Putnam is a big, wide track, so overcrowding usually isn't an issue. Plus, you know half the Ducati there will break down before lunch, so the afternoon sessions should be wide open! :lol:
I think I heard we had 40 bikes or so in the I group on 7/25....not completely sure though (Gunshow Nick can clarify) but it wasn't too bad....just got to practice my passing skills.
I coached on that day after MotoGP 08 and it was a good day for all... Riding on the track with Magazine guys was fun. Larry Pegram passed me in the slowest turn (a right hander) did not slow me up at all (i have a 2000 996) he was riding a 1098R with mirrors and lights still on, and left me in the dust. I tried to follow but you know when your bike in slower there is nothing you can do but is watch, He can ride it shows with his Wins in Kansas. Going MotoGP at Indy then to this event is a great way to finish a weekend. Have fun and ride safe. Putnam Park is fast and fun.
At Putnam wasn't there almost 40 riders in the I group? I know the novice class had a high number as well.
I coached the Novice class at the last STT Putnam weekend both days... I think on Saturday we had around 30 riders and on Sunday around 20... I don't call that a high number. Since I was coaching Novice I didn't pay attention to how many people were in the Intermediate group... however, I did venture out in one or two I sessions in the afternoon on both days and did not find a high track density at all. I certainly did not have a problem moving around at my preferred pace at all. Putnam is a nice, wide, flowing track and passing is pretty easy there... so if you were having problems I'd suggest getting with a coach to cover some basics. As for safety, I have ridden with many org's and currently instruct for two (STT and one other). In my opinion, I consider STT days to be the safest and well run in the industry. t