Video of my lowside at Barber

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  1. shsims

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    Just the fall, with slow motion at end: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qCra-lyXhs

    Almost 2 laps with different shots cut in, but the same ending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V5SnTThopY

    Please fire away if you see or hear something I can learn from...


    Despite throwing my bike down the track and triggering a red flag (sorry! :oops: ) it was still an awesome weekend.


    I shot a good bit of the mid-day Novice sessions on Saturday, so I may have some video of you if you tell me what to look for.
     
  2. Moto_joe

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    I honestly cant figure out WHY you crashed :shock:

    I think it sounds like maybe you chopped the throttle with the front end already loaded up. But I am not sure. Didnt seem to be a whole lot of speed involved.
     
  3. Moto_joe

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    one thing I can see straight away now that I am watching the full lap vids, is the "level" of your head never changes. You stay sitting bolt upright all the way around the track. Notice your front fairing never changes its place in the shot.

    still watching..... brb
     
  4. Moto_joe

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    To go with what I said just above, notice from :52 seconds to 1:14. You can draw a circle around your head on the screen, and it never leaves the circle. That means you are "crossing up"

    Next time you are out with us, get someone to help ya with your BP, and crashes like you had will be less likely.


    On the bright side though, your speed and lines seem smooth, and consistent. You have the right idea, just need more seat time and work on the fundamentals. Speed will come with good fundamentals. Dont rush the speed and you will progress very rapidly

    EDIT>....... AHHH..... 2:06...... BAD JUJU. Do NOT EVER look at a guiy who just ran wide or ran off. You will more often than not follow him wherever he is going...... :shock:
     
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    Glad you didn't get hurt..... Did ya break tha rear brake pedal again?? :oops:
     
  6. Keep Up

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    What kind of tires were you on???

    If street tires, maybe you have gotten to the point where you need a set of DOT's now. Maybe not, but I am not sure as to why you wrecked either.
     
  7. shsims

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    Thanks for the analysis there, Joe. I was definitely getting tired and I can see that I was getting lazy with my body positioning. 2:06...I know, I know. I don't like watching that part either!

    I noticed that just when my rear tire breaks loose, it appears like it was riding on a pavement seam. I didn't experience reduced traction on any other seams, so I don't know how much it may or may not have been a contributing factor.

    James, I had just replaced my brake pedal with Woodcraft GP rearsets for the weekend. The new brake pedal survived, but it is a tad shorter now. The peg broke away and the bolts holding the rearset bracket pulled out, stripping the threads in the frame. All that is easily replaced or repaired though. In hindsight, I should have slid those stripped bolts back in and stuck the peg on with some gum and then asked you to come over and 'test' it. :D

    Why don't the racing rearsets ever have folding pegs anyway? Is it intended that the pegs take the hit and act as a slider or is it about more solid feel and feedback, or just one less potential failure point?
     
  8. Moto_joe

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    all of the above on the rearsets. Also, when moving on the bike, and doing so properly, everything you do is pretty much with your legs and feet not your arms. A folding peg can and will fold up on you when you are trying to weight the peg, or transition side to side, especially if it is particularly a grippy peg.
     
  9. shsims

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    Tires were Pilot Power 2CT. There were others going faster than me all day on the same tires though.
     
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    If you listen to the audio you cracked open the throttle right before the rear end came loose. Maybe too much lean angle because your body position was not correct along with too much throttle caused your rear end to break loose.

    I had the same problem last year but a little different outcome. I think my problem was too much throttle for the lean angle because I was trying to setup the guy in front of my for a turn 1 pass but I needed a really good drive out of the last corner to catch him (I presume he was on a larger displacement machine)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx7mN6pD2RM
     
  12. 600dubbar

    600dubbar Rides with no training wheels

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    at 3:41 seconds your motorcycle was to say ......goodbye old friend.........lol then you get up all smooth i wish i made crashing look so smooth lol hope your alright man good vid!
     
  13. JOHN LACONTE

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    Looked also like some abrubt hands on the T-1 crash...they say the faster you go the slower the hands...at least at the Spencer school,they told us the 4 reasons why we crash.
    1)Loss or lack of focus
    2)Abrubt hands
    3)rushing corner entrance,can't get to apex
    4)Repeating a mistake
    Speaking only for myself,all my crashes had something to do with one of these!!
     
  14. Moto_joe

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    I cant say I disagree with that. Id almost add giving up on a corner as one as well, but I guess that would probably be loss of focus.

    Abrupt hands is a HUGE one for the novice group. Probably number one I would say for actuall crashes on track. Number two being loss of focus/giving up on the corner, which usually leads to the off the race surface crashes.
     
  15. JOHN LACONTE

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    Yeah for sure,which is prolly why mark Sheldon in his riders meetings always says"take a look outside the track so you familiar with the run-off zones in case of an off track excursion".Or something like that!!
     

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