WERA vs. CCS - Advice?

I think it depends on what your goals are. If youwant to have fun, either will work depending on which one has more tracks closer to you.

If you are chasing tire money and contingency, I'd say WERA pays better at a regional and national level if you race a lightweight bike (Clubman, 'D' SBK/SS, Lightweight Twins...).

It just depends on what your goals are and what you ride.

Good luck!

 

Entirely geographic. Living smack dab between Road America and Blackhawk Farms, CCS makes the most sense. If I lived on the other side of the Lake, I'd be racing WERA for sure.

I think the overall grid size depends greatly on which region you run in which each org.

 

i'm with this guy, i would love to attend some race school for learning and be racing next year. and 2 years try to start doing money races and points but just wanting to get in and get my feet wet first of all.

2nd i live in mississippi so not sure where wera or ccs does their races at to know if im located close enough to do either league per say.

so any advise would be much appreciated.


oh ya i'm with the guy in the quote for taking applications for umberalla girls.

think i can get some off ebay ?

or submit in the classifieds on websites ??? haha

 

WERA has considerably more stringent tech rules. One way to look at it is that it's more of a PIA to get your bike on the grid or the other way to look at it is that with their more serious requirements for tech, they have a greater focus on safety. I prefer the 2nd view, personally.
plus, the WERA BBS is the bestest.

 

I raced WERA both last year and this year.. I tried CCS over the memorial day weekend.


To Enter, CCS was more expensive (entry fees more, membership more).

WERA has more strict tech rules, but CCS requires that you take your leathers to tech.

WERA Grids make sense and are much safer. WERA grids people 3-2-3-2 and has quicker waves.

CCS Grids based on Pre Entry, so yes, you can pay your way into better results if you have that kind of cash to blow in the beginining of the season. I know I sure don't.

For Example, with WERA the solo (money race) is based on pre entry. I sign up for that 2 weeks in advance and I'm usually 2nd or 3rd row- wave 1. I use the money i earn in that to pay for Sundays sprints, which are based on points. I'm 3rd in 600 Superstock and 4th in Superbike, so I'm always gridded where I belong there. I have a much better chance of doing well.

With CCS, I registered the morning of practice and I was gridded in the back of the 2nd wave. 2 of my 3 races were red flagged and I only made it from 35th to 8th in 4 laps.

In the MW classes, there seemed to be A LOT more newer riders in CCS. I'm sure that varies quite a bit based on who signs up and shows up, but there were guys that I almost hit several times and guys who half the pack lapped more than once in a 7 lap sprint.

I will do CCS for passing practice, but I will go for a championship with WERA.

 

Interesting, I thought WERA gridded by entry as well. How do they grid you for the first race of the season when no one has points?

Your Summit experience was somewhat different from races around here. Road America is typically a packed weekend, but for the most part there's like, around 10 entries or less for AM races at most of the events.

You're right about the riders in the CCS middleweight classes. Seems like all the new riders want to start there - which is exactly why I'm not fond of the idea of entering middleweight races.

 

Thoughts there are mutual on the middleweights Jen - now if I could jsut get the sv to stay in one piece for a day I'd come chase ya around Blackhawk in lightweights hehe

 

i dont want to stir the pod but i dont agree with everyone here.

FACTS:

Both organization have fast riders
both organization have their good things and bad things.


CCS
- i hate the fact that you pay for your grid
- 75 to practice all sat and 55 per race, i think its not expensive at all.
- short races

Wera
- they are more anal about tech or you can say extremely more causes.
- griding is better
- longer races
- you have to buy your own transponder
- not geographically all over



they both pay about the same some more than others

PS: we have tons of entries, more than wera FACT (CCS FL) i dont know about anywhere else.

i have raced both organizations and i like them both, i will still race both and cant complain for either or just accept how each one is ran and thats it.

PS: no one pays more than what CCS FL does

UNL GP
1st place - $600 and a brand new set of slicks dunlop
all the way to 10th place progressively reducing pay but you have to run with straight pipes. Only experts can do this.

 

I'm racing WERA this year and am planning on doing both next year. It all depends on the tracks for me. I'm not fast enough to chase a championship at this point, so it's all about track time for me.

 

i am with you beer. i have seen you race a few times and your fast buddy.
couple of laps and turns and i no longer saw the beer on the back of your leathers anymore.

 

I was involved with WERA for 3 years before taking a year with USGPRU (CCS) and now back with WERA. And man am I glad!!! Couple of errors in the WERA requirements above, but none worth correcting. It is WERA for me.
I will say that Henry and CCS Florida was much better run than a typical CCS event. Glad they gave Palm Beach the boot! JMO Tdub

 

I don't race but I have friends on both sides of the line. They each can sit and tell you why you should be in Wera or CCS. Seems to me Wera has more experienced racers but that is just purely my opinion

 

And if you are in the same club as Tdub you prolly want to swap orgs LOL





Just kiddin but damn how fast

 

holy old thread, batman!

 

Short answer: I like ccs but they don't have the venues near me.
Long answer with rant: I've done one race weekend with ccs in Daytona feb 2010. I've done two with Wera at Tally and Road Atlanta. Both are similar for the most part. What i really liked about ccs was they gridded based on qualifying times during morning practice. Maybe this was only at daytona, but i got to grid based on skill vs how much money i'd spent with them or how early i signed up. Also, you don't have to pay extra for a transponder. I can't hit all the races and usually sign up the morning of, so usually have to start towards the back with wera. Other than enticing more to sign up early and secure more $$$, i don't see why wera doesn't qualify with lap times like the pros. Its fun to start in the last row and finish 8th, but you really have no chance of winning in short sprints this way. With points gridding, its possible to be mediocre but get to start up front every time because you can afford to run a whole season and sign up at the beginning of the year. I know some folks who don't really do track days and only race. Some are racing at middle of the pack intermediate pace and starting ahead of fast advanced pace. AMA, MotoGP, Nascar, etc, all qualify based on lap times, why is club level racing different?