Why do we need six feet passing in the "I" group??

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  1. GixxerPilot

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    This is why!!!!!

    http://traqmaterental.smugmug.com/M...567-ACC/9528338_YiLvU/1/#640332789_JUfEk-A-LB

    Broken Clavicle, bruised knee, loss of confidence, medical bills, lost track days, lost time at work, broken bike and on and on and on, is it really worth it to "go for it" with an unsafe pass.

    If your frustrated not being able to get around someone pit in , count to ten, and pit out.

    PM your well wishes to Sandra at seh4421 on here.....

    Jeff
     
  2. John.Crowell

    John.Crowell Rides with no training wheels

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    I hope she is alright.

    That is the definition of why outside passes are inherently safer and why we use the 6 foot rule.

    Whomever that was on the inside.....bonehead move, use that gray matter for something other than......
     
  3. TripleThreat

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    Sandra,

    Hope you heal up quickly... It really sucks when you are doing everything right and some bone head takes you out...

    Jeff
     
  4. Ogre

    Ogre Body, brake, shift, look, lean, believe
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    Heal up soon!!!!
    I hope said bone head's day was ended also.
     
  5. CephasGT

    CephasGT Rides with no training wheels

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    Wow, that's rough. No excuse for that at a track day...

    Best wishes for her recovery.
     
  6. grim46

    grim46 n00b

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    it was ended, but not by his initiative...i'm pretty certain STT staff ended his day.

    heal fast, sandra! (i'm the rider coach with the same helmet as you.) :)
     
  7. brilama

    brilama Rides with no training wheels

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    I was 20 feet behind Sandra when this happened. I had been following her for about 3/4 of a lap before the incident. She was running a respectable pace for the I group and was on the appropriate line.

    I hope you begin to feel better soon. Don't let this deter you from riding the track again. You did nothing wrong and you definitely have the skill to be out there.

    Take care and ride safe,
    Brian
     
  8. kriky

    kriky n00b

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    Heal up soon girl, that kind of stuff does not need to happen.
     
  9. hank

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    :shock:

    WOW!

    That tool should be dealt with harshly - talk about a complete lack of track awareness!
     
  10. sheepofblue

    sheepofblue Rides with no training wheels

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    Wow that was strange. From the cam her lines looked massively smooth and predictable. If I am passing a slower rider someone riding like that is my favorite since the only question is how much extra courtesy space to allow them. That was just bizarre. Heal well.
     
  11. X

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    Sandra heel up.
    A lumpy clavicle is like a right a passage.
    :)

    Sadly, we all some times make poor choices.
    In this case, the passing rider did just that.
    I can only hope, that this video clip might help people remember...
    6 feet, means 6 feet.

    XIII
     
  12. seh4421

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    Wow. Thx Gixxer pilot. Didn't expect this. Appreciate the support. I get it we get hurt, things happen. Diff is that was preventable and took the rider in the line out...for 6 months, not just a session or a day. Sheepofblue, nice of you! That's what I work hard to do! You rock. Even if I'm slower (was running north 1:25's by that session) pick a safe place around. I had been watching where to pass the instructor ahead of me working with someone and didn't want to be that person who passed and parked it so looked where I could safely pass both and not interrupt what they were working on. Watched them a lap, planned on turn 6 straight, if I couldn't I planned at the long straight. Came around 2, faintly heard a twin from the left, saw the guy in black go around on my right he passed clean and fast and got it done. I went into 3 & well almost 4 :). Thank you to anyone who came by me as i tumbled by for keeping clear of the human log roll. :shock:
     
  13. seh4421

    seh4421 n00b

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    Once again, big thanks to GixxerPilot for the post. I was riding GP's bike which took care of me all considered and took it on the chin, er handlebar, frame sliders....like a champ. I felt awful about his bike. It passed tech and kept going. Unlike my clav and separated acc at ACC...

    Cool video of the day...GixxerPilot can hook you up.

    I am very thankful for the great crew I track with that was right there at the ambulance and I could see their concern. Meant more than I can say. Thanks Monte, Nick, John, Sue, Bomber, all of you for your support. ACC and EMS, you are a terrific crew and they really are there in the blink of an eye.

    Have to miss out on the 1/2 marathon this weekend. Things happen. Thanks for the support to get me back in the saddle!
    I'll be back and likely be out spectating until then.

    S
     
  14. truckstop

    truckstop Rides with no training wheels

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    Sandra -
    Hope the shoulder heals quickly and we see you back out there soon. You have always been smooth and predictable on track, and you've always been a total sweetheart off the bike in the pits. Not that I wish this on anyone, but I'm *so* bummed this happened to you. :(
     
  15. DirtNap

    DirtNap Used but not used up

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    WOW, that stinks.

    Best wishes for speedy recovery.
     
  16. ezduzit99

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    the rider in question had his keys pulled for the day. There were some rumblings of moving him to "A" with a coach the next day (sinday), so he could get an idea of what fast was all about, but that didnt materialize. He spent sunday in "I" riding at a very moderate and reserved pace.
     
  17. hank

    hank n00b

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    Hell no - with his lack of track and situational awareness he is even a greater danger to the rest of the A group. Hasn't he already shown that he 1) doesn't follow even the most basic of rules, 2) can't predict closing speeds and 3) can't predict the line of a rider he is attempting to overtake?

    The A group already has too many people that are significantly over their heads as a result of being allowed to 'self-categorize' themselves...

    It always raises concern when I'm waiting for a session to start and I see people with Red (Intermediate) TPM stickers and an A (Advanced) STT sticker waiting to go out for an A-level session...

    He should have been bumped DOWN for the rest of the year for such a flagrant offense and if he pulled another stunt like this - banned from future events. Seriously, this is an inherently dangerous activity with the potential of life-changing or even fatal results if people don't follow the rules. We all have jobs that we need to go to on Monday morning and have people who depend on us - no one wants or expects to get hurt... or worse...

    There are enough safe, mature and competent people who are willing to ride within their ability to fill the grid and partake in an enjoyable day at the track.

    <Rant>
     
  18. kiggy74

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    Keep in mind that we all make mistakes, and what might have seemed like a good idea as he was coming up might have quickly turned into a bad situation. I would just keep that in mind before we lynch the rider that caused the crash. At some point we will all F-up, let's just hope we're lucky enough to not take someone else out, but it does happen from time to time.

    This is a great video though. Really demonstrates a fairly typical situation.
     
  19. STT GUY

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    That's a whole lot of advice and biching from someone who wasn't even there and based on a post that said "rumblings". The rider thought he was A material, we knew he was not. We put him with a coach in I and some one-on-one to help him.

    I can only guess that a 30 second video makes you an instant expert on a situation? FYI, Our A group has very few seroius crashes and those that do happen usually involve those with race licenses. I wonder why that is?
     
  20. STT GUY

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    Sounds like Hank never has..... :roll:
     

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