Am i taking this turn wrong?

I am not sure it's a line issue (maybe your line for the given speed), more of an exit speed issue. That turn usually pushes you toward the outside at the exit (slow in fast out). I turn in late there, square it up and gas out. It seems that is what those other riders did to you. They squared you up and had more exit speed.

Here is a similar view I found:
http://youtu.be/CSK3vZbEtWQ

 

From what I can see you need to use more of the track, drifting closer to the apex mid corner, then drifting much farther out to the left edge upon exit. This will allow you to carry much greater cornering speed and vice versa.

Someone much better than I will probably have much better advice for you.

 

It's one of them green kawi boys

Well when you look at your vid, the guys passing you are still passing you on the inside so what line do you think they're taking? I would say they are following your line but getting on the gas more on the exit.

Turn 5 can be taken pretty fast too! WOT from apex to exit.

I gots to get a go-pro

 

You're fine, carry more speed to pull you through the corners but leave room for error; it's your first potent motorcycle. Use more of the throttle but more importantly, use it smoothly. Slow is smooth and smooth is fast.

 

One thing I noticed is that your are setting up for your turns JUST before you turn in. I would advise you to set your body position well before you initiate the turn. It will help smooth you out.

 

You're body position is fine for your pace, I would say you need to go a gear lower through most of the corners. You're doing 3rd gear in what can be 2nd, and you'll feel the momentum pull you through more with the same throttle inputs. The video posted earlier is of jfuggint and he gears something like a -1/+4 at ACC, so what would be 2nd for most at WOT is 3rd for him. You look fine, I think you just need to get more comfortable with actuating your throttle open more off and on than you currently are. You seem bright enough to know what warm, comfortable tires feel like and once you start using the throttle more (with room for error...), then you'll learn what a correct suspension feels like and such. It's a big learning curve to do this sport but it all falls together if you take it precariously.

 

QUOTE=Ninjeff;115432]You arent the first to tell me that. I think you're right.

Right now i'm still in the "check off list" phase of learning.

Approaching a turn i have to run a quick mental check list:
1. ok Jeff....look at your entry...
2. find the right speed..
3. set your feet...
4. get off the bike....
5. look for the apex....

none of it is "automatic" for me yet, although having video to watch has helped TONS. Especially the 3rd person video Chris was kind enough to shoot for me.

Being new i felt like i was on the edge of the tire...IM REALLY LEANED OVER!...then i watch the video and im all like..."well shit". lol[/QUOTE]

Dude this is exactly how I feel about my riding and nothing is automatic for me yet either lol. Im the guy in all black in front.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSK3sKR6bE0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

I've seen many different lines through that turn, even from instructors. Some say to go completely outside the "table top" before cutting in, some show starting over the inside third of it.

I've found that the wider i take the entry, the tighter you can make your exit (good way of getting an inside pass on exit). If you turn in earlier, you'll push out more. It's a balance between exit speed and the line to what works best for you.

You have more room on exit, but that will come with time and speed. I'm by no means fast, but this is what I've encountered. Hopefully I didn't just spew a bunch of nonsense.

 

IMO, don't put too much emphasis on one of the slower parts of a track.

 

^^^ this guy is slow and OBS, dont listen to him :lmao::lmao:

 

Sorry, that looked like me passing you too close. Most people are forced all the way to the left exiting that turn due to their corner speed. You want to exit that turn as fast as possible so you get more speed for that straight. It seems most people shift over to the right as soon as they get on that straight. Now, I always look to pass on the left after that turn. It usually works perfectly as they shift over almost like they are letting me through. One time someone hugged the grass the whole straight, though, and almost ran me off while I was waiting for an opening.

 

I think your line should be more like this. Make sure you hit that apex.

 

The tricky thing about Autobahn is it was designed for cars, not motorcycles. There are lots of late entry, "hooked", corners and unusual double apex's that are more favorable for cars that have an extreme amount of grip to take them properly. Turn 6 is one of those, I think of it as an Apex and a half; more like an 80 degree turn which requires you to take a late entry but there is tons of room on exit to really use the throttle. The REALLY fast advanced guys pass me all the time through there, comfortably close, because of that slight kink before the Apex and then slingshot out, grabbing lots of throttle.

Your lines are good, but I still think you need to tap that tranny down a gear and try the same throttle input. Feel how the chassis responds differently and the power band will pull you out of the corner more. Those guys are passing you because of this reason and can slingshot out of there easily when you're still stuck below your torque curve.

Here's another reference for taking that corner:

http://youtu.be/BsMVO053BXg?t=26s

 

i wouldn't worry as much about 6 as i would turn 3, missing that apex puts you pretty far off for turn 4 & then turn 5. going wide on 3 puts you in that large divet thats in that turn. 6 is a throw away corner, you can take it so many different places its not as important, its about the only one on that track that is a throw away other than 2 maybe. this video has some examples of that, when i was looking for a way around Boyd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENUqMuWkBKo&feature=c4-overview&list=UUHmGQQVIk8hFDRk5Xgw-TWg