I am a little on confused on how to hold onto the bike while approaching a corner under heavy braking. I want to set up for the turn earlier but I can't get my body off the bike because I am using my legs to hold the tank and there is so much force pulling me forward. Should I get my heavy braking done sooner and then get off to the side while still lightly braking into the corner? Right now I often get caught getting my butt off while I am initiating turn in. I need to set up sooner, I just don't know how.
The preferred way is, hang your body off before you start braking. Using the outside leg to lodged your body into place with the tank and the foot peg. -X
I like to use the negative G associated with coming off the gas, to help get my azz in the air and shift on the seat all in one same, fluid movement...
Never sit in the Middle of your seat... You should always have 1 cheek off before entry as well as braking.. This will help the bike stay good suspension wise entering the turn. Road America and Road Atlanta Straights are the only exception IMO... Just curious... Have you ever sat in one of our Novice Classes?
OK Yes, I have ridden in the novice group twice and attended the classes on both occasions. Are you saying that on courses with shorter straights, such as Barber, you do not get centered on the seat? I'm not doubting you, just want to clarify. Also, I realize that I need to get a butt cheek of before entry, I was asking how can I simultaneously move over to the side while trying to squeeze the tank under hard braking. Once I remove a leg from the tank the only thing that keeps me from sliding forward are my arms or my nuts.
Yes...that is what he is saying. Most people do not center themselves on the front straight...both the last and first corners are lefts so you really do not gain much from moving your butt back to the center and out again (other than unsettling the bike twice)...simply tug your knee in after the last turn... You still can use your leg to stabilize yourself under braking when moved over...when you approach the corner, slide your butt over but leave the knee still at the tank. Get your braking done and when you are ready to turn in, simply extend your knee out...
I concur with Marc and Keith both.... If I am in the middle, which is rare... I take the off throttle momentum to move me into position and then start smashing the brakes and stirring up the gearbox....
It is very important to remember: Body Brake and the with all your might tip in and Believe that you are going to make the turn..... even in the paddock, these rules can help!
you describe the same problem we all have. simply takes practice and maybe a video camera on the coach's bike behind you. I use the first session of the day to cruse around and practice going slow. pretend its raining and or cold as an excuse to go slow. IE. w/o braking for genital speed thru the turns. Use that time to look at the track too. With all that braking out of the way (since your going slow you don't need brakes) practice setting up for the turn with your 'ars' to the right of the seat for a RH turn. Get the rhythm of the track second and third sessions. After lunch I try to get all the points dialed in and go fast the last sessions. A good core workout of a 10 minute sit-ups, light weight dead lifts + other core exercises will defiantly help. It did me. I do at least 10 min's of sit ups every morning with my girl friend who is a NASM personal trainer. Did I say she is naked?
You're all so very wrong. when approaching a corner you wait until the three marker, stick your leg out, and let the rear wheel start to come out around the front then let off.
we all got to practice my blocking leg and backing it in skills https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuGZzr3vxY < video of Christian Meekma & me at Blackhawk farms in 2013 hamming it up
http://www.amazon.com/Soft-Science-Roadracing-Motorcycles-Procedures/dp/096504503X Purchase that book and thank me later
I think that is about the only popular roadracing book I have not read. I own and have read: Twist of the Wrist 2 Total Control Sport Riding Techniques Performance Riding Techniques Intro to Roadracing I have read all of these in the past few months. I feel like I benefited the most from the Ed Bargy book "Intro to Roadracing." It was good enough that I decided to sign up for his school. At this point I am much quicker on corner entry and have pretty much gotten past the problem I posted about in this thread. I will definitely pick up the book you recommended though, it has been on my list.