HA, HA Barry that's actually pretty funny!! :lol: :lol: Maybe, I need one just with the muffs to cover my virgin ears........Or ....Ummm.....Yeah, maybe they are not so Virgin, but the sense of humor was there. THANKS FOR LIGHTENING UP THE THREAD!!!! :wink:
My pleasure rr69. Do you ever make it to Autobahn or Blackhawk? I seem to remember seeing you in an old mobile home or camper, maybe not, my memory aint what it used to be...
I've never made it to Blackhawk yet, but I have made it to Autobahn a couple of times. You may have seen me most likely, but I didn't have an old motorhome or camper then. (I do have a motorhome I bought off my Grandpa now though. ) Last year I was always driving a Red 4x4 ranger with a black 5x8 enclosed haulmark trailer. If you ever see one of that description you should come on over and say hi. I pretty much make friends with everyone. I think there was only one guy I met at the track that I absolutely couldn't stand. Just thinking of him still makes my blood boil at times. I'm sure everyone has been there though. Anyway, take care.
I sure will. Yes I know a guy like that. My first track day a few years back at Blackhawk at a nesba event I asked this guy,"what time does it start?" He poked out his chest like a rooster and said "it starts when it starts" well it went downhill fast after that. STT is a lot more fun and the people are great, except sometimes this old guy k3 keeps getting in my way..... :roll:
This is a great thead. A couple of peeps were kind of juvenile but it's kind of a "right" to be stupid here form time to time. Better stupid here and smart out on the track, don't you agree? I'll never lock a thread or ban someone unless they are exceptionally rude or vulgar. I did lock a thread that speculated about Autobahn but that was not because anyone did anything wrong. I just didn't want this BBS to be a source.
the horse died before i got in my last kicks but i'd be happy to start another thread of potentially equal derision. the ego police would come out swingin'. :lol:
"I'll never lock a thread or ban someone unless they are exceptionally rude or vulgar" I guess your safe if you're both!!!
What is the first thing one does when they are driving their car and straining to look for something {follow map directions}? turn the radio down or off! No??? :roll: :shock: :shock: PS I know one Naval Aviator who had to do that even after his ride lost instrument lighting. Imagine that one. No lights, alone in the dark looking for a ship in the dark skies on a dark sea. What do you want at that time Metallica blaring in your ears???? BTW Rossi said he needed a muffler becuase without it the bike was soooo loud he couldn't concentrate. If I absolutely had to prove this I'd look for the quote.
at first, i only questioned if any of the naysayers had experience riding with music, and if not, not to knock it 'til they tried it. unfortunately, any intelligent conversation quickly deteriorated into threats and unfound correlations to the operation of other machinery/vehicles. i try not to take things out of context...it's called comprehension. now i have to question whether people understand the difference between apples and oranges. :roll: aside from the examples people tried to use, there are two words that describe the difference between all the examples and a rider playing music...verbal communication. btw, if any of you face an hospital visit that requires an operation, ask the surgeon what he's gonna be listening to in the background...but i digress...he still has to communicate. monte, regardless of your stand on safety - which we all know is a concern, do you expect us to believe your implementation of this new rule is a coincidence? please. i know you get what i'm saying, as does jig and others who have first hand experience on the matter. your opinions reflect that. bravo. being a rider that believes in safety :shock: and playing by the rules, you won't get an argument here about why i can't play music at your events. although, imo, there's a time and place for such things. since i don't ride on the street - too dangerous, and playing music is not something i think i'd be comfortable doing at a racing event, it leaves me with only trackdays to enjoy that 'one-in-ten' relaxed ride. the other nine? well, i'm trying to burn it up just like everyone else. if anyone would like to continue in an adult fashion, maybe we can morph this into something worthwhile. i have a question...and i'm not trying to bait anyone. i heard about riders that climb long uphill switchbacks then turn around to come down with their engines off. they say they find themselves going faster into and through the turns than if they used their motors. assuming it's true, what do you think that's about? :?:
Hello Fred, I've done the drifting downhill thing, both in daylight and at night with the lights off. Because we were racing the tendency was to brake too late trying to maintain speed and botch the corner. Since I try to start applying throttle as soon as I get off the brakes and flick the bike, this also messed up my cornering and made the bike unstable without engine drive. Those that corner faster with the engine off may need to work on their brakeing and corner entries. My thinking is if any relevent input slows you down or irrelevent input makes you faster, you probably have an undiscovered/unresolved riding problem that should be corrected. My main riding problem is that I'm getting too old but I haven't found a way to correct this. As to the difference between apples and oranges; If you're a mechanic and have an orange for lunch, the juice burns when it gets in the cuts in your hands. Apples don't.
thanks, mike. at night without lights was on purpose? okay...i am NOT the crazy one. :lol: it didn't occur to me to consider the rider's abilities...i can see how that makes differences. "My thinking is if any relevent input slows you down or irrelevent input makes you faster, you probably have an undiscovered/unresolved riding problem that should be corrected." wow. that's some good thinking right there. it's makin' my head hurt. i'm of the "on the gas at turn in" camp but there being trailbraking turns as well, do you think there's anything useful to be gained in trying these downhill exercises?
Hello Fred, The coasting is worthwile just as an experiment. It's also ILLEGAL. It clearly shows what happens if you are lazy picking up the throttle. It takes the engine out of the braking/entry equation and it shows how important ACCURATE entry speed is as opposed to just concentrating on late brakeing. Trail braking or braking while straight up are the same. Brakeing done, flick bike if straight or complete turn in if trail brakeing, feed throttle, ideally all in one act. There are exceptions, naturally, but thay are just that, exceptions.
i do all right. i wouldn't call your technique an exception. it's another approach...maybe it seems more natural. i adopted the 'on gas' style after taking many schools. it was confirmed, in my head at least, when i heard a race commentator talking to jackie stewart, who is of the 'get the braking done, get on the gas at turn in' camp. the commentator talked about the techniques the drivers were using, blahblahblah, and mentioned that barber, or bondurant - one of them guys, taught braking into the apex. stewart asked the commentator how many grandprixs had they won.
like finding that false neutral, huh? accurate entry speed...i read that as maximum? how many times have we all blown that one? it's hard to gauge, for sure. i like how code uses '4th gear only' to accustom students to the entry speeds...problem is it gets all blown out of proportion when screaming in hard on the brakes. :lol: